Re-thinking the Arian Crisis

Dale Tuggy has posted a podcast in which Bill Hasker reviews recent scholarship regarding the fourth century trinitarian debates. From what I can tell Hasker is reading from his recent book Metaphysics and the Tri-Personal God. Given how expensive the book is, I am delighted that Hasker has made available this podcast to us. His summary of recent scholarship appears to be reliable. I commend it to anyone who is interested in the Arian crisis. For further reading on this topic pick-up Nicaea and its Legacy by Lewis Ayres.

Tuggy follows Hasker’s reading with his own remarks. He dissents from Hasker’s insistence that the doctrine of the Trinity as formulated by St Athanasius and the Cappdocians faithfully represents the Christian understanding of God, even if one believes, as Hasker does, that it should be corrected at points and developed along social trinitarian lines. Tuggy proposes a provocative thought experiment, which I hope to comment upon in a future posting.

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5 Responses to Re-thinking the Arian Crisis

  1. tgbelt says:

    He’s reading from his book, yes. I forked out the $ for it. It’s on loan right now, but when it comes home I’ll mail it over to you.


  2. “that it should [be] corrected at points”
    the silly typos we make while blogging. i probably have several myself. as my history professor would say–“if we could [write well], we’d be in the english department” (he used “spell” where the brackets are though).

    any way, i actually posted something similar to this rethinking of the arian controversy on my own blog. it had along with it Diarmaid MacCulloch’s lecture on this subject…interesting lecture i should say.

    interesting how tuggy blames the great schism on the eastern orthodox. i would have thought most protestants (and for that matter, orthodox) lay responsibility on rome. though i can understand some of his reasons behind that considering that the orthodox rallied around the state church as opposed to the western church which exerted itself above the state (ironically using something borrowed from justinian i and applied to western canon law).

    it is interesting what he comments about the devotions to mary, the saints, and icons and statues as the ancient orthodox jews actually used icons in their liturgies. and the part about the new testament is what made me start questioning my own views on the trinity…if a trinitarian gave us the new testament (st. athansius to be specific), then maybe i should believe the trinity.

    on a side note: my philadelphia flyers just shattered the st. louis blues.


  3. tgbelt says:

    What do you think of Dale’s thought experiment (15:40 onward)? I thought you’d enjoy imagining the possibility of the Eastern Orthodox repenting of their schism and return to Rome.


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