Universal Salvation in Christ: A Conversation with John Milbank

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10 Responses to Universal Salvation in Christ: A Conversation with John Milbank

  1. Wes says:

    To whom does he attribute the quote “Evil is the myth of hell”? I can’t quite make out the name.

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  2. kenanada says:

    I’ve tried to figure that out as well. The name sounds like Pegie or Pagy or Peggy. Milbank says that he is another formidable defender of universal salvation. It would be great to find out. It’s at about the 42 min. mark of the recording.
    P.S. Father Kimel. Thanks so much for these conversations. It’s very affirming to hear first hand what renowned scholars, theologians etc. believe about universal reconciliation. Appreciate this blog and all the work you do!

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  3. John Grinnell says:

    Indeed

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  4. brian says:

    Just got to listen to this. Milbank is a more genial Hart; or less inclined to polemic, shall we say. Hamann, Blake, Macdonald, Traherne among my favorite Protestant writers. Freedom and Personhood are both realities we approach analogously. Folks think they know what they are, but the flourishing truth of it is eschatological. Relational ontology is something Yannaras has broached. Certainly, Milbank is correct that the Human Pleroma transcends our finite antinomies. Distinguish between nominalist individuals and the unique singularity of person which is always embedded within the Whole; hence, never starting from an originary atomism. Bulgakov’s assertions of the impossibility of not loving Christ presuppose that we discover the ineffable uniqueness that motivates our searching desire for the infinite Good is inalienable from Christological foundation. All true names are Christophoric.

    I think its important that Milbank affirms the perduring importance of masculine and feminine bodily identity. Contemporary obsessions with transgender choice are nihilist refusals of Creation, not to mention forms of child abuse when foisted upon young children who lack a wise culture to guide them in attaining holiness. As far as Polish Catholics go, I suspect John Paul II largely in sympathy with apokatastasis. And Peguy is a poet I often reference: so slowly the Catholic affirmation of genuine universal good news may yet happen.

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  5. Myshkin says:

    Just listened to this; amazing. Its funny but the missing puzzle piece is a very good analogy for the absurdity of eternal torture, and Fr how could you forget the quote: to know the good is to desire it insatiably, not to desire it is to have never known it and thus never been free to choose against it.

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  6. Fr Aidan Kimel says:

    Hart’s quote is never forgotten! One of my favorites!

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