Christian Perspectives on Free Will and Providence

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  1. Tom says:

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  2. Robert Fortuin says:

    Deeply disturbing how we Christians can be so deeply divided about this most crucial consideration. Very discouraging I must say.

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  3. Tobias says:

    Dear all- Please forgive this intrusion. I am currently in the process of beginning to plan an essay regarding Neoplatonism and it’s involvement with Christianity, a topic that, alas, is the subject of so very many dubious theories on the Internet, particularly from various Unitarian groups and Muslims. If I may ask you all a question, in your perspectives what may be seen as the Platonic Triad and the Holy Trinity ? From my understanding it seems the graded Triad of Plotinus is nigh identical to the Arian notion of the Holy Trinity as expressed in the Thalia. Any advice would most welcome. Additionally central Christian doctrines such as the Incarnation and Resurrection were perceived with ridicule and horror by the hellenes, such as Celsus and Flavius Claudius Julianus, known to history as Julian the Apostate. God bless and love you all.

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  4. dianelos says:

    I was struck by the following (at about min 17:40): Molinists and Calvinists “want to make sure that for everything that is good and gracious, God gets the credit. [..] That all good things are by God’s grace.”

    I would like to submit a question about this matter: So let us imagine two worlds each with people doing exactly the same good. In the first world everything to the very last detail was predetermined by God, and all good is exclusively by God’s grace. In the second world it was not all predetermined by God, and creatures with sovereign freedom of will chose to do that good, and therefore get some credit. And it’s not like all good is by God’s grace; rather the good is by people freely choosing it, with the help of the strength they derive from God’s grace. In which of the two worlds does its creator have more credit? Which creator strikes us as being greater? As being more admirable as a creator? As more generous, as more beautiful, as more worthy of love?

    It should be obvious that I find the second world greater and indeed the only one worthy of God. I suspect that those inclined to choose the first world believe that “credit” is a limited quantity, so that if creatures get some of it then God will necessarily get less. But all things that are good cannot be intrinsically limited. It is by us creatures, not being made perfect but fallen, but nevertheless free to use our sovereign will to choose the good, that God’s great love and indeed glory shine.

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